Definitely on my calendar

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While kamalla hides

Although I’d heard of Joe Rogan, I’d never listened to his show before he interviewed Trump last week. It was fabulous, because Rogan is a great interviewer, and managed to calm Trump down enough for them to engage in an in-depth discussion of almost everything. Rogan made it a conversation, rather than a mere interview, and, taking it in three chunks, I found the entire three hours fascinating. Trump came across as the man I saw at one of his rallies back in 2015: funny, smart, and far nicer than his mean tweets would lead one to believe. Rogan himself reminds me of Bill Buckley and Dick Cavett, also excellent conversationalists, but Rogan has three hours to use, and he uses them effectively.

J.D. Vance and Joe Rogan? I won’t miss it.

Here’s the full Trump interview, in case you didn’t see it.