This is who and what we’re dealing with
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I ran across a post by a woman calling herself Wonkette, and was struck by not only here duplicity but the completely unhinged comments by her readers.
Revenge Of The Wingnut Panic
…. One line in Feldman’s statement really gave us pause: that bit about eliminating rules that “promote unscientific ideological agendas.” That’s usually Trumpspeak for any mention of climate change, a weird thing for a CPSC chair to even mention. Climate regulations have largely been the Environmental Protection Agency’s regulatory bailiwick, at least until last month, when EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin decided no, science isn’t real.
So what the hell “unscientific ideological agenda” was Feldman talking about? It took a moment, but then we glanced down. Oh yeah. The Woke Agenda to ban gas stoves, which was never an actual plan, not ever. But in late 2022, then-CPSC Commissioner Richard Trumka Jr. proposed looking into regulating new gas stoves because multiple studies showed gas stoves contribute to childhood asthma and emit nitrogen dioxide (NO2), carbon monoxide, formaldehyde, benzene, and other nasties even when turned off.
[Ahem. Attention, Miss Wonkette:
9 Jun, 2022
States that outlaw gas bans account for 31% of US residential/commercial gas use
That science hasn’t gone away, and while it’s true that methane is a potent greenhouse gas, Trumka only talked about regulating gas stoves to make them safe for indoor use. If that couldn’t be done, he added, almost parenthetically, “Products that can’t be made safe can be banned.” His assurances that new rules would only apply to new stoves were ignored, and wingnuts in Congress and rightwing media started screaming that if liberal commie Joe Biden wanted to take away their gas stoves, he’d have to pry ‘em from their cold dead hands. (Rebecca popping in here to note that after reading about all the gas stoves and childhood asthma, she replaced hers with electric, and Donna Rose never had asthma again. You too might want to consider it, if you love your children!)
Working from the principle that facts shouldn’t get in the way of tropes about insane government regulators breaking down your door, Feldman just plain lied about gas stoves. He praised Great Leader’s “commitment to preserve the freedom of the American people to choose from a full range of goods and appliances,” and lied about the proposal itself. He said the CPSC review had rejected “a former commissioner’s proposal to ban gas stoves” — again, that was only one very unlikely possibility — and lied that the proposal was “rooted in climate ideology not consumer safety,” when the concerns were solely about the safety of consumers with gas stoves in their homes.
So that’s enough from Wonkette; time to hear from her followers. I don’t hold conversations with these people, but it’s probably good to know they’re out there, roaming loose.
Always seemed odd to me that the conservative response to being told gas stoves could be hurting their children was "Fuck you! I choose the stove!"
Not odd when you consider ideology is more important to them than not harming or killing others and that their particular ideology highly encourages both.
Had the gas service shut off at our little house and I yanked out the pipes.
The downside: Utility bills may be a little higher going all-electric. The upside: Chance of house explosion or gas poisoning is now zero.
Property > human life
The prime conservative equation.
Save the fetuses. Damn the children.
"If'n a gas stove wus good enuff fer George Wsshington then it's a'good enuff fer us!"
Why? It’s the same response they give to guns.
(Also the same response to actual child molesters.)
FAMBLY VALUES!!1!
My aunt worked for a propane and propane appliance company, and everything in the house was gas powered if possible, with little to no venting. I can't help but think that tied into the early onset dementia my grandmother, my aunt, my mother, and her sister suffered and eventually died from.
They have culturally-cultivated oppositional defiance disorder
In light of what we know about propaganda fear tactics' effect on the brain's amygdala -- I'd be really interested to know how an externally-mauled amygdala (or related shrinkage of the parts of the brain where empathy is cultivated) affects the exacerbation of such an ODD
But in order to have those studies we have to get back the NIH money they stole
*sigh*
Dear Everyone – we’re not going to be able to regulate ourselves into “normal” in the midst of an experience that is SO ABNORMAL
The low educated right wing ethos has always been "Shut up! You're not the boss of me!"
They think it'll hurt other kids and they're not stressed by that?
If it hurts OTHER kids, fuck 'em. Am I my brother's keeper?
And now they tell us they're AGAINST unscientific ideological governing? Somebody should tell Bobby Brainworm and Robert E. Lee Zeldin about this, they seem to have not got the memo. Oh, wait, nevermind, the Dear Leader with his deceased brilliant uncle at M.I.T. is now the sole arbiter of what science is good (prolly none of it) and what science is ideological (the kind of ideology he doesn't like, his "Make Amurrka Grate Agin'" ideology is foundational and scientific. Climate study, germ theory, public health study, that kind of fucking woke-ass shit is outta here. Bring back faith healing as the medical paradigm (except for the brane genius Dear Leader who NEEDS, unlike the rest of us slobs, the best care there is.). What would ever become of us with the firm, brilliant leadership of our own Great Steersman, Dimwit J. Tromp pbuh? I shudder to think.
“Unscientific”= “anything that contradicts our ideology or might cut into corporate profits.”
Right? Their freedumb trumps their children's rights to basic needs every. single. time.
And their right to "parental control" for the schools their kids attend trumps the rights of every single OTHER parent of a kid in that school ( or even school district ).
The whole Republican ethos amounts to I! ME! MY ! MINE!
The ethics of the seagull.
That I will never understand. Why are their kids the victims and not EVERYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T WANT THEIR PARANOID STUPID SHIT TO HURT THEIR OWN KIDS?
None of the rest of us count, in their eyes. THEY are the REAL AMERICANS and the rest of us are just prey.
https://www.wonkette.com/p/give-us-gas-stoves-or-give-us-death-maybe-even-both
Give Us Gas Stoves Or Give Us Death! Maybe Even Both!
Republicans (and Joe Manchin) react pretty much as you'd expect.
Jan 11, 2023